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  Jasmine States

  March 30, 2009 at 10:43 pm

  Your false perspective and wrong attitude of the present is also displaying
  a hindsight bias towards the past. Most of you adored Pitt before you got
  manipulated into turning against him. Most of you adored and respected Pitt
  way before Aniston came into the picture. He increased her status, popularity,
  and power..you have to be delusional to think it was the other way around.
  She became one of the most beloved woman in the world because she married one
  of the most beloved men in the world. She became an A-lister, became America’s
  Sweetheart, and got that Golden Girl image through Pitt. People had rightfully
  fallen in love with Pitt because of his personality and appeal years before
  Aniston. He played a role in improving both the career and images of both
  Paltrow and Aniston. Both of those women would betray him. Aniston had a level
  of popularity and fame because of FRIENDS, but it was on a much lower-scale.
  Most of the fanbase was more about the show than about her. A lot of people
  back then would claim to be FRIENDS fans but there weren’t too many people
  who would say they were big Jennifer Aniston fans. The whole Faniston era
  began with Pitt. Did the world really care about Aniston’s personal life,
  her happiness, etc before Pitt came into the picture? She became the center
  of affection and attention because she married Hollywood’s Golden boy
  Pitt. Any actress Pitt would have chosen would have become Hollywood royalty.

  There was a great discussion before about how Aniston and Pitt were incompatible. Any good judge of character could see Aniston was never the
  woman she claimed to be. She is a pathetic social-climber who manipulates
  and uses superior people to elevate her power. She married Pitt not because
  of who he is but of what she could get out of the marriage. She emoted nothing
  but insincerity and phoniess, showed such a lack of substance and lack
  of authenticity yet the world just chose to believe her when she just basically
  modified the tabloid version and misportrayal of events. I guess only a minority
  could see she was no different from any other corrupt, shallow, egotistical,
  fake, and manipulative actress in Hollywood. The minority liked Pitt and
  connected to him because he was none of those things. He was the rare exception
  and it was nice to have a good guy on top for a change. There were also many
  signs of unhappiness and disrespect from Aniston. I knew she never loved the
  guy and was just using him. If she cared about Pitt even a little bit, she
  wouldn’t have shamelessly thrown him under the bus when it was advantageous
  to her. Many actresses have those negative qualities but I think very few
  would have taken it so far.

  It is also ridiculous how people are not recognizing the control Aniston
  has with the media, their favorable bias towards her. Practically every media
  outlet would sink to the level of a tabloid, and sell the same version. No other
  actor has ever dealt with such a bias where the media just flat-out refused
  to believe them or even gave them the opportunity to explain their side of
  the story. There is too much evidence to dissect and I don’t have the time.
  It is demented how you are just taking Aniston and her cronies at their word and think she was telling the truth when I think she was not telling the truth
  about anything. There were some big contradiction that should have exposed her.
  Pitt defended her against the baby rumors yet she turns around and is despicable
  enough to act like he spread that notion. She even got her friends to lie and
  say that having kids was not a priority for him. She created the notion that
  he was trying to ruin her reputation when he had been nothing but a class act
  and a gentleman in regards to her. They called him diabolical and shady when
  she was the one who was being diabolical and shady. Any long-time observer
  of Pitt would know that he was family oriented and wanted kids. He expressed
  that interest back when he was dating Paltrow. They would also know he was
  politically and socially conscientious among posessing many other positive
  attributes which would make them the ideal mate for any woman. Aniston never
  expressed a traditional stance of mind when it came to marriage. She never
  showed any public interest in children, was uncomfortable and insincere when
  asked about it. Pitt had a traditional outlook on marriage before dating
  Aniston. Then Aniston flips the switch and literally steals from Pitt. She
  suddenly poses as the woman who yearns for children and believes in marriage
  lasting forever. I can go and on with her contradictions.

  Anybody who held on to an accurate understanding of Pitt and knew the facts
  would know that Pitt is very moralistic and disapproves of infidelity. He
  was one of the few actors who openly expressed how he was offended by that.
  Pitt himself was cheated on explicitly twice. He was even the target of
  emotional infidelity, a concept that Jennifer distorted, as well. Shalane
  McCall dumped him and said she had fallen for somebody else, there was no
  affair, but she had crossed the line emotionally. Jill Scholen, his first
  fiancee, cheated on him with her director and exposed this horrible news
  only a few days before their scheduled wedding. Gwyneth Paltrow cheated on
  him with both Ethan Hawke and Harvey Weinstein. Pitt had been brutally
  victimized multiple times yet he was protective of his exes. He was gracious,
  dignified, and had no interest in people feeling sorry for him. Any person
  who also followed him through the beginning of his career would also know
  that he is a romantic purists. He places a great value, sanctity on love
  and romance. He would never end a relationship over petty reasons and he
  would engage in betrayal or deception. Trying to explain his breakup with
  Aniston was years in the making and just was a mistake of marriage naturally
  coming to close, is difficult, time consuming, and complex. Aniston turned
  out to be very different from the woman he thought she was, they did not
  share the same philosophies, interests, aspirations, and etc at all. They
  both projected signs that the marriage was going to end years before those
  rumors. Pitt also had been the target of rumors of infidelity after every breakup, it never made any serious headway until Aniston’s posse encouraged it.
  There were no signs of caddish behavior from Pitt and no signs of him ever
  cheating. Pitt’s word should have been good enough. Yet everybody on this
  board is hanging on to Aniston’s damning lies when she is being so pathetically
  fake and coldly vindictive.

  The breakup was a mutual and amicable one, yet when Pitt later hooks up with
  Jolie, she backtracks and behaves as if she were dumped and betrayed. They
  issued a joint statement about the breakup. They both made considerate comments
  about each other. She even stated that she loved and respected Pitt but they
  were just not meant to be married along with other comments. He threw a birthday party for her. They went to an Oscar party and went to other events
  together. He didn’t even move out immediately after the breakup. The breakup
  occurred in December but they waited to annouce it to everyone after the
  holidays. All signs of a peaceful breakup that occurred mutually. They didn’t
  rush to get the legal process started which is common with amicable divorces.
  If Pitt had actually made those allegedly incriminating comments about Jolie during their marriage or just “checked out” after he met Jolie liked her friends
  claimed…the breakup would not have been an amicable one. She would have
  trashed Pitt from the beginning and she would have filed for divorce under
  infidelity. I also bet she distorted what he said and took it out of context.

  Pitt said he didn’t cross the line and I know he never would or will cross the
  line. Jennifer also managed to twist around the definiton of emotional infidelity. Saying somebody cheated because there was merely an attraction
  is irrational and immature. We would all be considered cheaters and homewreckers then. Aniston was just as much as a flirt as Pitt and her
  “friendship” with Matt LeBlanc and other men could easily be described as
  inappropriate. Acting on an attraction is infidelity. Crossing the line
  and becoming romantically involved with somebody is infidelity. There has
  to be a direct correlation, with all of that gossip, it was easy for Aniston
  to act like there was a direct correlation. I highly doubt Pitt ever made
  those statements. She probably took out of context of how he described their
  bond and how he enjoyed working together. Pitt is also a man of character and
  conscience. It is important for him to be commendable in his behavior. Aniston
  and her friends chose to presume about his state of mind during the marriage.
  She displayed her complete lack of respect in Pitt when he had been nothing
  but good and true to her. Aniston knew her position in Hollywood was under
  threat without Pitt. Eventually the accusations would have died out and Jolie
  would replace her as queen of Hollywood. Covering up the truth about the
  marriage was covering up the truth about herself. She didn’t want to face the
  truth about herself as to why the marriage really didn’t work out. She is
  living a lie. Also, the last year of a marriage is when two people become
  disconnected with each other. They know things are going to end so they
  quit trying to work things out. Pitt could have easily dumped Aniston years
  ago but he waited until that sentiment was mutual. He is intimidated by Aniston and I don’t even think he would have had the guts to just dump her. It was
  easy just to point the finger to Jolie because they met a year before their
  marriage ended. A lot of decent celebs including decent regular people could
  be misportrayed as scandalous by abusing the gossip and timing.

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  Jasmine States

  March 30, 2009 at 11:04 pm

  There is too much evidence and indication of Aniston lying and contradicting
  the truth and facts. Aniston took advantage of the fact that the public and her
  naive ex had such blind trust and faith in her. I don’t have time to go through
  all of the evidence. As time goes by, the media and Aniston just get more
  depraved and deceitful and it gets harder for people like me to hold onto the
  truth.

  Recently, the media yet again launched on a false premise of a confession by
  inserting lies and distorting comments in their interviews. Pitt and Jolie
  NEVER said they fell in love on the set of Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Those were
  deliberate misquotations. Pitt tried to clear that up but once again he
  was unfavorably edited. Aniston also made blatant misleading statements and
  took out of context about what Jolie tried to say in her Vogue Interview.
  Jolie’s interview was distorted but one thing was clear..that she denied
  having an affair with Pitt during his marriage and during that movie. Aniston
  made it seem as if Jolie confessed to an affair in that interview. Saying that
  looking forward to work everyday with Pitt was uncool and inappropriate.
  It was just insane but Aniston is used to getting away with her lies and
  contradictions, as outrageous as they might be. She knew the media would cover
  up for her even though they knew Jolie did not nor will ever confess. It was
  probably Aniston’s most obvious lie because you could just go back and see
  that Jolie never confessed to an affair. Jolie was trying to describe her
  friendship with Pitt and their working relationship. She tried to explain how
  their great bond naturally turned into a romantic one when he became single.

  I can go on and on. What is necessary for being immune to brainwashing by
  false storylines is to understand society and to understand people for they
  really are. You need to have strong morals and have a good BS detector. What
  I said was just the tip of the iceberg and a light summary on the truth.

  The media kept linking Pitt and Jolie together before they got together because
  they knew they would eventually get together despite the rumors due to their
  obvious compatibility and chemistry. They knew Pitt would fall right into their hands. As two people who were clearly right for each other, there was no reason
  for them not to become more than friends. There was no way in hell, two people
  with their great connection could just remain friends. They didn’t even want
  to fall in love, it just happened. It was not planned. After his breakup, he
  had to do reshoots with Jolie and promote the movie with Jolie. That
  attraction that had been repressed because he was unavailable when they
  first met could rise to the surface because he had become single and free
  to love again. All Pitt did was move on with right woman despite the messy
  circumstances. It was written in the stars and Jolie was his destiny. Maddox
  quickly became like a son, as being father came natural to Pitt. Angelina’s
  adoption of Zahara had become finalized and he became a father figure to her
  as well. Then Jolie became pregnant after 5 months of being together. I know
  the media has distorted comments to contradict this but that was not planned
  either, that was just how things naturally developed. There was no need to
  date 2-3 years before settling down together because they just knew they
  had found the one. Pitt’s view on marriage had soured after Aniston and he
  chose an unconventional path.

  Jolie did not intentionally wreck Billy Bob’s relationship to Laura Dern.
  He lied to her about being single. Jolie and her mother was deeply affected
  by her father’s betrayal. Even the old wild Jolie never would have taken up
  with a married man. She had her issues but she was never a bad or selfish
  person.

  For the record, Pitt and Jolie’s romance began unexpectedly 3 months after
  he and Jennifer annouced their separation. They did not committ adultery.
  All the people who claimed they did are being sinful, they will being punished
  by a higher power who understands the truth. The people who were good and
  strong enough not to believe that lie are immune to all of those other
  lies and misportrayals the media dishes out on a daily basis with Aniston
  benefitting and profitting from all of it like the press.

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  Jasmine States

  March 30, 2009 at 11:09 pm

  Brad and Angelina are truly in love. Brad has always been a good person
  and Jolie is a reformed woman. You need to quite living in this delusional
  world of lies. Pitt has been suffering just as much,if not more, than
  Jolie under all of this monstrous malice and corruption. You are a nice
  and good guy your whole life but then it all gets ruined by a false accusation that nobody should have believed? You a moral guy who cares about people but
  gets misperceived as everything that contradicts who you are. You become labeled by a lie and over a sin the world doesn’t truly care about. While
  a sick fraud and egomaniac becomes the most respected, awarded, and loved
  woman in the world at your expense?! Leave Brad & Angelina alone. Get
  a soul.

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  Jasmine States

  March 30, 2009 at 11:20 pm

  Andrew, I didn’t waste my time. There are intelligent and insightful people who will understand the basic truth behind what I said. Of course, a loser who believes all the garbage is lashing out at what I said with petty statements.
  Cutting what I said down or dismissing it with absurdities. The media has treated this accusation and all of the other trash spawned by this as fact ever since Aniston made it real to people. You are being judgemental towards Jolie’s past and ignoring the change in her that occurred after becoming a humanitarian and mother. She never made excuses or apologies for her past. She stopped being
  that person a long time ago. Aniston is the mentally unstable one and the
  world is caught up in this never-ending madness because of her.

  That lie escalated into such slander that most of the world is engaging
  in. This is has had a negative, destructive impact on millions of people. I
  cannot relax about that. I could be like you and just accept lies, and pretend
  it doesn’t matter. I am exhausted from this. I have other things to do.
  I hope the truth hit hard with some people.

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  Jasmine States

  March 30, 2009 at 11:29 pm

  Correction, he would never betray or deceive anybody. He is the target of corruption, not the creator.

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  deanna States

  March 31, 2009 at 9:22 am

  Jasmine, if what you believe about Jennifer being so masterfully manipulative, have you ever given a second thought to the fact that it could be Brad, with his bigger than life career, that is so masterful. Seems to me, he would have many more resources than she, since he had at the time, such a hot career. People lie all the time and with lots of folks to stand by their every word. You are so right about Jennifer & her career being not as big as his. And I’ll even agree with the fact that her career benefited from his and so on. But here’s the irony. He commended Angelina not too long ago for the very same ability that you accuse Jennifer of, ya’know manipulating the press. Oh, and why is it pray-tell that all those women cheated on him? I think maybe, we don’t get the whole story, somehow. Get over yourself, honey, if little Jenn could get us to believe all her crap, what makes you think Brad-boy couldn’t. Especially since he admires Angelina for the same craft. Look, their actors, their job is to stand up in front of all of us & make us believe they are someone that they are not. When they need to they manipulate and we gobble it all up. It’s really too bad too because the only reason they all do this initially is to get famous. But then when they do get famous, it really is too much. Unless you are there sweet-cheeks, you don’t know as much as you think you do. PLEASE go back to your day job.
  P.S. Let’s see how this whole Brad & Angelina thing works. Seems to me that they are equal in lots of ways and now there’s kids to be considered….

• 27

  Oni States

  April 6, 2009 at 1:59 am

  Deanna’s perspective seems reasonable and logical.
  Jasmine’s sounds vindictive.
  Me, I think Brad’s the root of the problem.

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  daria States

  April 18, 2009 at 10:03 am

  I have never read such an enraged rant about any public figure as this set of comments by Jasmine about Jennifer Aniston. Pure hatred. Irrational. Is Jasmine really Angelina, posting about the web anonymously to further trash a woman who used to be married to her boyfriend? LOL….what rubbish, just a vicious diatribe from someone who has chosen to despise any woman who ever ended a relationship with Brad Pitt. Sick stuff, truly.